The story appears simple on the surface, but is revealed, especially after multiple viewings, as more multi-layered and textured than Cassavetes at his best. Ostensibly it concerns a 14-year old Catholic girl, Wynne (Agutter) growing up in this post-modern wasteland, who develops a crush on her much older adoptive brother (Marshall)- a crush which perversely deepens and grows into infatuation once she starts to believe he is the local sex killer. This is in itself an idea that makes you sit up and jolt, but as the narrative develops, it continues not necessarily along a linear path but in several confusing and fascinating directions: the family's history, (detailed effectively in chilling flashback during an improvised seance) is a chequered one, and has suffered at least one major relocation and upheaval in the last ten years. At the crux, however, it's the depiction of socialal changes that make I Start Counting so fascinating and elevate its language far beyond the confines of the standard horror film. The major subtext- that teenage girls were maturing more quickly than before, and developing full sexual and romantic appetites (even if in thought rather than deed) but were not possessed of enough discretion to make the right choices- was a step forward for a genre in which its young females had previously been portrayed as bimbo victims (Cover Girl Killer and The Night Caller spring to mind), but not one that all viewers would necessarily agree with. But most striking of all, and possibly the most enduring image which the viewer will take away with them, is of the masterful symbolism with which director Greene invests every shot. Every inch of the Kinch family's world- their house, their walls, their TV, Agutters underwear, bedroom furniture and toys, Sutcliffe's clothes, Marshalls van, the local Catholic church, their town centre, their record shop) - is painted a bright, scintillating white- a white which, by inference, is slowly becoming smudged and corrupted with the dirt of the outside world. White also symbolises, of course, purity and innocence (two qualities Catholic schoolgirls are supposed to hold dear), and it is into this world of innocence that the ever-present red bus (a symbol of violation and penetration), conducted by the lecherous yet similarly juvenile Simon Ward, makes regular journeys. The allegory is further expanded in one scene where Agutter believes she sees the Christ figure in church weeping blood: by the time we acknowledge it, its gone, but the seed has already been planted. Rarely in a genre production has the use of colour and background been so important or effective in creating a uniformity of mood. I Start Counting is as near-perfect an end to a decade as one could hope for, and exactly the kind of film people should be making now- which is, of course, exactly why they never will. A genre essential. by D.R.
问题或许出在成像风格上，陀螺的调子总感觉马上就有水怪或魔杖要登场了，而film noir要的只有黑色。PS. 达福演的那叫Clem Hoately啊
现在这种电影真的是不多见了，难怪斯科塞斯老爷子认为大家应该去看一看。我确实是守旧，这种近乎手艺人的感觉，cult电影的气质，真是太戳我了。说回电影本身，也就是说，这个lowlife，不管怎样，最后他都是piece of shit，因为他没法控制自己的欲望，克服自己的弱点。highborn也不是因为克服得住自己的弱点而成为highborn的，人性中有无法克服的欲望和弱点。社会有运行的规则，拒绝相信有什么命定
《水形物语》、《潘神的迷宫》吉尔摩德尔托罗执导，经典翻拍1947年同名电影，Bradley Cooper全裸上阵，全片散发着迷人的中年男人气息。鲁妮玛拉和大魔王Carol (2015) 后再度交锋。还有威廉达福的精彩表现，虽然觉得并没有什么发挥的空间。片子更像是对老电影的一种致敬，没有所谓的深度，片中角色人物的的动机也显得单纯甚至愚蠢，但好在演员的演技都在线，让原本平淡如水的影片变得可看性适中。
好烦父子的故事线就消失了。而且男主这种有点小聪明又下得了狠手的人怎么会有这种结局啊，大魔王的角色有点莫名其妙。两个半小时？可怕。
结构很散显得混乱，前面整整一个小时的铺垫，和后面的招摇撞骗没有看出有什么特别必要的需要这么长时间的铺垫的联系，除了那句需要怪人的台词以外
前半段不太行，甚至跟后半段过于脱节，黑色气质也不够。不太明白陀螺翻拍的意思。
渐入佳境，反倒不觉得是一个四十年代的故事，而是在被架空的时间里。
杀了你证明我比你有力量，牛掰！从前团长字字句句跟他描述怎么找怪物就感觉到了这里有坑，果然，最后被关到笼子里了。剧情有很多牵强的地方，不过，各位大咖演技到位，看着还挺过瘾的
4.5 陀螺这部的策略依旧是体制内相对保守的，但肌理仍旧是非常丰富的：从传统通灵到现代心理学、从男性欲望到女性主体、从黑色电影到作者恋物、从战时精神危机到当前后真相危机……形成一个自圆其说的闭环的同时，也因处在各种光影交错的过渡地带而实现了化骨绵掌式的惊人“内爆”。最重要的是，陀螺并不沉湎于过去和个人趣味，他始终在讲述现实。
且看且珍惜了
Bradley Cooper演不出young buck了，大家都好苍老
大魔王出场前直接给看睡着了…看了一会大魔王又睡着了…Cooper的演技和陀螺的风格…呼……
感觉翻拍得还行；可以理解为什么第一幕在马戏团的场景足足放了1个小时 也许是想要产生马戏团微观社会与美国社会的互文关系；收尾之处选择确实要比老版本好点
凯特大魔头出场很晚，戏很少，没担当大反转，动机也离谱，1941年的女心理医生，处心积虑向一个小人物证明自己足够强？
看完《浅草小子》再看这部有点唏嘘，同是师徒。这部我在家倍速看的，所以大家诟病的主要缺点规避掉了，剩下到位的氛围和进入无聊期前的惊悚。其实故事中规中矩，甚至早到geek一职出现就能预料结局，但有些电影就是可以精致到形式掩盖内容。Not bad——一些人理解成Good，一些人理解成不差，这就是我对这部电影的评价。
怎么说呢，这就是那种肯定不差，但是绝对没有好到可以拿奥斯卡提名的电影，而且自从上一部水形物语之后，对于陀螺的装逼和鸡贼实在是越来越反感了，白白浪费了那么美的大魔王#2022奥斯卡阅片倒计时#
内心已毫无波动，安定地看京阿尼如何各家cp轮流发糖就完事了。
人太多了 完全不记得不认识了 凛真的好爱
怎么说呢，这就是那种肯定不差，但是绝对没有好到可以拿奥斯卡提名的电影，而且自从上一部水形物语之后，对于陀螺的装逼和鸡贼实在是越来越反感了，白白浪费了那么美的大魔王#2022奥斯卡阅片倒计时#
剧情堪比流水账，当作下饭剧都觉得无聊…结尾部分更是莫名其妙。
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