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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
身为人母，难免抱歉，要么对自己、要么对他人。生而为人，同样如是，哪怕无悔，依然有憾。
3.5☆
亲子关系本来就是欠债讨债，而且女主这性格居然会生第二个娃，也是神奇
奥莉薇娅演得太好了，值得小金人。“我抛弃了她们，三年没见她们。”“没有她们你感觉如何？”“我感觉太美妙了。”是的，这就是真相，即使只有万分之一的母亲会这么想，但这也是现实生活中的一部分。爱任何人，都不应该是义务，不管这种义务是社会伦理决定的还是生物学决定的。爱和不爱，生和不生，都该取决于女人自己。
不看到最后，你可能不知道这终究是一个什么样的故事……性、自由、责任、回归……说白了这是一个老套路。讲故事的方式还算新颖，里面的几个主要角色都是代差，母与女、父与女……只是给中年莱达大量性暗示镜头多少让人感觉有些发腻。达科塔·约翰逊的身材还是这么好，象征意义强烈，也让中年莱达看到了自己。片子的最终是回归的，并没演绎出一场悲剧。有点味道，但也有点刻意。
气质独特，以一种Observer方式闯入，化解方式也如海浪搁浅冲塌，没有无因的焦虑~
soundtrack很好听！单独片段也不错，可是导演的storytelling真的boring
creepy, intimate, body horror
新年第一片，期待已久的olivia colman。一盘烂水果、一个洋娃娃，那些从旁的凝视、欲言又止的躲闪、欺瞒与坦白，甚至自私和罪恶，都溶进紧张感递进又带着些诡异和情欲味儿的气氛里，如此顺滑的演出一个乖僻的非自然母亲、和她放纵挣扎的过往与无处可逃的当下。
导演的双线叙事和细腻特写描绘成为母亲后那些暗处的痛苦，并且这些痛苦曾被“母爱无私”道德绑架，连出现这种想法都是罪过。情绪表达很到位。
故事拼凑的乱七八糟 最后情绪无法被烘托 玩偶倒是恶心到我 三星都给科曼阿姨
费兰特，你真的很会提起大家想彻底忘记的那些事，让全人类都觉得难受🥹
不知为何看这个让我想起了 蓝色茉莉 但是没有那么强烈的共鸣
Nina竟然是Dakota！怼了那么久的脸部特写我都没认出来。剧本真扎实，多棒的起承转合，过去和现在的交叉蒙太奇剪辑，串联起角色的故事线，丰满女主形象，更喜欢过去的时间线。看不出身为处女作导演的生涩，演员转导演的Maggie拍出了女性独有的情感和视角。科尔曼的演技无声却有力，不过想拿奖还是有难度，太多的戏份被同样出彩的Jessie分走了，比起演技奖，剧本奖反而更有竞争力一些。
「我在寫到最後才想到偷娃娃的行為，還有布娃娃被偷了的女童，女童的母親對於勒達產生的吸引力，這些都是靈光一閃，即興產生的。這兩個元素——母女關係，還有一段剛剛產生的友情的陰暗背景——會讓我進一步探索女性之間的複雜關係。⋯⋯假如勒達沒法釐清她的行為——她的內心會越來越凌亂，她作為一個成人，偷了一個女童的布娃娃——我寫作時，也會和她一起淪陷，我沒法像解救黛莉亞、奧爾加那樣，把自己和她從旋渦里解救出來。」沿著《碎片》裡的蛛絲馬跡走入勒達的世界，題為暗處的女兒，但真正需要被看見的，恰是明處的母親。瞥見了母職的枷鎖，也瞥見她的逃脫。在矛盾與混亂中的欲言又止，藏在眼淚裡的甘苦交織，像一場救贖一樣打動著我。
1，本片译作《失去的女儿》是不是更合适？
The name called MUM. 中文名译作《暗处的女儿》是因为原著意大利名La figlia oscura，而不是英文译名The Lost Daughter，oscura和obscure同源吗？科尔曼值得一个奥斯卡最佳女主提名。
能看出来是伪欧洲艺术片的美国独立电影 不过最后的结尾真的好绝 恐婚恐育只想在电话里当母亲 想要给予爱更想要自由和呼吸 （will sandwich笑到了
这操蛋的生活 真够令人窒息的 这一切都不会过去的 日常恐育get
实际感受7分，为导演＋一⭐
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