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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
看似亲密的寒暄，却是无尽的疏远，这就是某种孤独与疏离吧
冲着金敏喜，肯定是四星支持了。洪尚秀继续作为电影艺术珍惜物种存在。
除了洪常秀的保留节目之答记者问和喝大酒之外，整部片子意外用了明亮调的黑白色，强烈的光线对比将每个人都衬得好清亮，尤其在小说家的电影里，金敏喜捧着野花笑眯眯走过来，整个荧幕都只能看见她那张脸了，也太漂亮了。
用手语读诗，用电影讲我爱你。
对金敏喜夹带私货的彩虹屁让人不断分神，这样的故事似乎让纯业余电影来讲述更有「元电影」的味道，而洪常秀充满程式化且自我炫耀式的腔调则越来越令人生厌。
和《在你面前》几乎一样的结构，在重逢与新识中，一个女人回到自己的过往，想用电影拍摄下此刻的生活，直至电影和生活再无区别。故事最后会告诉你，其实这部电影本身即是她完成的作品。片尾金敏喜捧花的一场，是所有作品中见过最真的情感流露。
洪导大部分片揭露男性文艺工作者的虚伪，该片塑造了一个虚伪的反面——打着“真诚”的幌子，根本不考虑别人感受的女性角色。从开篇就可以看出来，以前关系很好的姐妹开了换了新地方，都特意没有告诉作家，作家从别人那里得知姐妹经常办沙龙——也没有邀请自己，不言而喻，曾经的好姐妹躲着她。//接下来偶遇曾经差点要合作的导演，导演：您不会还在为上次没合作成的事在生气吧，我真的很想拍您的小说，但是我说了不算。作家：真的喜欢你就拍啊。导演：可是这不是我说了算啊，是投资人说了算啊。作家：投资人说了算？哼哼。//再接下来，他们一起散步时遇到了金敏喜，导演对金不再拍戏表示可惜，这位作家又冲上去：你凭什么可惜，她是小学生吗，她自己不会做决定吗。拜托，人家可惜一下有什么不可以？
差点被彩色部分吓到，还好结尾回到了熟悉的高血压配方。老年人的问题在于对高血压习以为常，已经不敏感刺激崩溃大叫了，洪尚秀在快70岁的时候成长为大男孩
-You're so Pretty!ahhhh//评审团大奖//不如《引见》深入，但更本能、自在，既是一次自反，又给未来两人的创作埋下了伏笔…
我真的…大无语，老洪啊！磕CP磕到这来了，哎，又喜又无奈
被洪常秀PUA了，可以总结为向心力的文本+离心力的影像，《在你面前》里没拍成的电影，这一部里让小说家自己拍，不仅如此，还要骂一顿权海骁，虚伪!（当然权就是洪的一个分身，有意思的是，小说家是后金敏喜时代洪的另一个分身，太耐人寻味了），还有大段方法论的阐述（是看了滨口龙介吗？），洪粉过节。能感觉到洪常秀暗暗的在用一些标签化的设定写人与人之间的差异，比如《逃走的女人》里5年不曾与丈夫分开的妻子，这一部里两人嗅觉的差异。全片唯二不符合单镜筒原理的地方:一处是年轻店员问诗人故事的构思（小说家当然无法得知这个莫须有的第二个版本，好玩的是诗人也不知道），一处是电影结束金走出电影院，所以当然要在电影院看!结尾其实有点俗，但奈何是金敏喜，所以都成立
剧情流韩影在奥斯卡戛纳异军突起的同时，柏林对老洪的近乎“专情”，既是宣扬风格，也帮助韩影百花齐放。
电影真谛都在这里了，拿走不送，怎么拍看你了，只能教到这了。
最后几分钟被击中了 他能给她的全部都在电影里了
在这部之前我对洪常秀是没有办法严肃对待的，但这部非常好
但从作者史而言，未免有些大打“场外”牌之意了，结构性处理得更加微妙但也意味着削弱了影像本身的美学风格，以至于粗糙再次凸现了洪尚秀金敏喜“场外”的特性。
这部显然不太一样，就像好久不见金敏喜出现在洪的电影里，看完后也十分充分地发现这个故事深层下关于他生活中的爱，又一次地重申。洪导显然进入了另一个境地#思索
談話電影，與同事、朋友談話、探討創作會想到這個電影。
洪常秀是想说：我电影里，关于戏里戏外演职服化道的一切，都必须是我的私人最爱。换句话说，作者电影的导演们，从不接受公私之分的讨论（金敏喜点了个赞）。
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