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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
我期盼了好久
是节奏缓慢而抒情的电影，里面呈现的生活方式，很像是苹果的长篇广告
天鹅挽歌是个科幻片 人们总是对未知的事物充满想象力 对已知的事物束手无策 剧情老套却令人动容（镜头舒适 风景绝美）
喜欢片子对情感的细腻表现，而不是形式化的表演。 十分考验演员功力的剧本，阿里真是太合适了
他家人如果知道真相后会心碎死。永远不知道真相才可以
天鹅挽歌 2022.1.7 另一个我，一气化三清。
从技术层面保持怀疑，但从哲学角度，今天的我已经不是昨天的我，明天的我也不是今天的我，那么复制一个完全一样的我，到底是不是我已经没有答案。我觉得这并不是憧憬科技，而是回归人类本身，探讨爱与死亡。影片的落点很温情，译名很贴切，高概念的主题依然饱含人文情愫，这很苹果。另外以后的 Apple Car 会不会就是他们坐的车！
与自己告别，但吾将永存。我相信，这就是未来我们的故事，虽然我看不到，但我相信，我相信。
很奇怪为什么豆瓣上大多数人都在讨论道德困境，人之将死才去复制自己，牺牲自己几周的生命，换取家人的幸福，我想大多数人都会做出和男主一样的选择。这里根本不存在什么道德困境，所以本片展现的也根本不是道德困境。而是吧这个决定背后的艰难一点点揭开给你看。曾经的甜蜜，曾经的风雨，今后的幸福，这些都将不再属于你，当然会难过会挣扎。可是如果不去复制，这些难道不也是很快就烟消云散了吗？所以闭眼前，你知道有一个人会替你守护住这些美好和幸福，还有什么比这更好的死亡吗？就像天鹅，在自己最美的歌声里死去。
人之所以区别于动物就在于知伦理明道德 但同时人也是最自私的动物
1.“爱”真的太美好了。2.前15分钟没有很好地建立起对这个新世界的印象，扣分。3.男主第一次听克隆人和自己妻子视频通话爆发争吵的那场戏，非常妙。4.“get well soon”是我喜欢的那种幽默。5.节奏非常舒服的片子，情感克制，观感良好，我喜欢。
家里好会装啊，阿里好会穿啊，卫衣衬衫羽绒服瓜皮帽在他身上搭一下咋这么好看。其余剧情，节奏，让人昏昏欲睡。
全片最有科技含量的地方就是这神乎其神的记忆移植。
一种平稳的自我安慰的伤感情绪。用克隆人强设定，实际上还是通过搭建个人和家庭的关系，理性与情感的结构，拷问人性人情。选或者不选都挺让人难过，想到那句话说，我们供养着这具躯体，因为它保存着记忆。
克隆人的技术都那么成熟了，为什么不能将本人完全复制粘贴过去呢？只是重新造了一个拥有自己记忆和所有生物特征的人，那这个技术又有什么意义呢？还是不能达到“永生”，只是找了一个自己的替代品，这种事情给人带来的冲击感和孤独感太难让人接受了，就好像让一个机器人或者陌生人来代替自己继续和家人生活一样。影片在伦理和个人情绪的描绘上做的不错。
美其名曰新类型，不过就是换个方式给你讲大道理罢了。科幻外衣下的毒鸡汤真的也没有好喝。
即使身体组成物质相同，思想相同，但那也不是我自己
不以故事和场景迷人，只有细致入微的感情~适合心平气和时慢慢的品味
2星，一个披着科幻概念的人性片，主要就是讨论人性与科技的碰撞。比较文艺，很多不合理之处可以忽略。
我们不害怕孤独，我们更害怕被遗忘. 我们不害怕被欺骗，我们更害怕失去.
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