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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
不能说难看，景色美，BGM美，节奏合理。但也不好看，每个演员都像是顶着借来的假发，披着借来的棉衣，在借来的布景里机械地嘟哝意义不明的台词。人物没有融入电影，电影没有贴合原作。就挺可惜的。
爱情大多数时候都是徒劳【奈绪太好看了！！！
说完缺点，优点也很明显，有高桥一生（稳定发挥）
3星给男女主1星给景1电影接近结尾终于明白为什么男女主似有隔阂又联系在一起：岛村最强工具人实锤！ 2高桥和奈绪泡温泉画面让我不知道想抱走高桥还是抱走奈绪！3高桥一生饰演的岛村是真正的绿叶，扮演观测女主几年变化的旁观者 。4镜头语言:导演刻意减少男女主近景表达情绪的镜头，可以增多了第三方窥探视角，以此来增加一切均“徒劳”的宿命感。【各种乱序剪辑最后再来个真相实在无语】4剧本太过小心翼翼，导演和编剧无法用镜头语言表达清楚的事情均用高桥的独白来完成——》综上就不要吐槽演员没演好这码事，这些都是导演和编剧对原著的解读而已。
女主选的，深受轮到你了影响很难代入，且不知所云，有时间看看小说。。。
在A24早年的片子里，很多空镜特写都是必要的是有意义的，但现在，越发得感觉产出为了风格而风格，使剧情发展十分缓慢。故事还行，老cp看着都两百多了，身子骨还这么硬朗，可能就是凭着这股不服输的精神吧。
没有看过原著，看得有些疑惑，叶子这个人物在原著里份量很重吗？电影里是看不出来，她和岛村在墓前的对手戏就一直没搞懂，来得莫名其妙。高桥的旁白很好，驹子的眼里蓄满泪水的样子太惹人怜了，没想到高良健吾也在里面，对我算是个小惊喜吧。
奈绪没有撑起来真是太遗憾了，其他都过得去，叙事手法我也可以，但凡奈绪再入味一点我都不会觉得这么隔靴搔痒，偏偏我还是因为奈绪看的，倒是对以前的版本有了兴趣。没看过原作，但是原作的强大完全感受到了。
藤本有纪把驹子的日记补充以后，行男和驹子变成了这个故事真正意义上的主人公，岛村成了排解寂寞的替代品和解谜的工具人。奈绪光芒四射，单主一生君真.绿叶，高良健吾强势打酱油，那一脸人畜无害的憨笑也难怪驹子无悔付出一切。
“我”想得到她的日记，呃，不由得让人想到太宰治与其小说《斜阳》背后的真.相抑或丑.闻……事实上，川端康成早期的一些作品（如《少.女的港口》）就是由女作家中里恒子代笔的，川端仅仅只是署了名！
益生菌和奈绪演得都很不错啊，倒是森田望智演叶子有点意外。
一星给奈绪，那种隐忍和复杂演绎的很好，一星给那漫天风雪的北国，一星给川端康成老先生的关注，男主不符合心中的形象，太过于丰腴而且情绪的变化和波动没有演出来
看完就是感觉很朦胧，感觉心里有点堵，出来散散步。
非常迷影向的成人恐怖A24。说着与原剧本无关的《精神病患者》麦格芬，就粗暴简单的致敬一场不再有海斯法典限制的刀入戏；进了地下室，理所当然就该《闪灵》了，只不过来了个猎杀关系的倒装。平行蒙太奇和双格画面的同步使用，以及毫无剧情和美学意义的频闪剪辑，加上黑白电视里宣教所带来的理性蒙太奇，完全实现了片中摄影师所言，我们要拍一部有艺术追求的nice dirty film.
因为对新选组的历史不太理解，所以有些地方没太看懂。但是总体是好看的，特别是杀阵，看的我很激动。冲田吐血和最后去世的时候，哭了😭
只看过1957年版本的电影，两个故事从感官上相差蛮大的，这一版相对直白一些，我看到的两个驹子完全不一样，有机会再去看看书，看看驹子到底是个怎样的人。
看片的时候，一直回想当年读小说时自己心里的想象，然后两相对照，看差别在哪里，又自己当初为何会形成那样的想象。
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不能跟原著的纯洁粲然比，但已经算还原得不错的了。“驹子令我虔诚匍匐，又被悔恨的洪流裹挟”。这一切都是多么地徒劳啊。
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